Wave-Cancel WS Upper Guide — Back on Frame 8–10, Then RP
Cancel a wave dash with back, then press RP as you rise to get the while-standing upper. When the command is right but nothing comes out, the timing is almost always the reason.
What it is
The wave-cancel WS upper cuts the crouching state of a wave dash (6N23) with back (4), then presses RP while rising to get the while-standing move. Conceptually:
6 N 2 3 … 4 … RP
The … marks a gap; it does not mean holding d/f or back. The hard part is not the command but getting two gaps right at once.
Two windows: A and B
| Window | Measures |
|---|---|
| A | From the wave's last d/f (3) to back (4) |
| B | From back (4) to RP |
A counts the d/f frame itself as 1f, so A=8f is the moment 7 frames have passed. B counts the back frame as 0 and starts from the next frame.
Success table
The later A is, the wider the RP gap you are allowed.
| A (back) | B (RP gap) | Successes |
|---|---|---|
| 8f | 1f | 8+1 |
| 9f | 1–2f | 9+1, 9+2 |
| 10f | 1–3f | 10+1, 10+2, 10+3 |
It is not “any A of 8–10f with any B of 1–3f”: 8+2 and 9+3 fail. At first, aiming A late, near 10f, gives B the most room.
This table summarises the operator's own tests with a while-standing RP in Tekken 8. It is not guaranteed for every character, while-standing move or game version. The site judges input gaps only and does not claim which move comes out in the game when it fails.
Directions allowed between inputs
- Window A: holding d/f, neutral, or one forward (6) is fine. Two or more forwards, or any other direction, voids the attempt.
- Window B: hold back or go neutral, then RP. Any other direction fails.
- Back+RP together: B becomes 0 and fails. RP must come at least one frame after back.
Chaining another wave dash replaces the d/f you are timing from, so however many dashes you do, time it from the last dash's d/f. Both 6N23 and the no-neutral 623 count as the lead-in wave.
Why the right command does not come out
- Back too early (A of 7f or less): you cancelled before the dash had travelled. Leave a short beat after d/f.
- Back too late (A of 11f or more): you missed the cancel point.
- RP late: B is too long for your A. With A=8f the RP has to be on the very next frame.
- Back and RP as a chord: pressing them together makes B=0. Think “back, then RP”.
How to practise
- In the Wave-cancel WS upper mode, do one wave dash and then the cancel, over and over. The frame table under the stage shows inputs after d/f in cells 1–15f, and the evaluation panel reports A and B separately.
- Read whether A was early or late and whether B was early or late, and fix one at a time.
- When it feels steady, run the 10-try challenge. Each task picks 0–3 wave dashes at random; do that many, then land the cancel on the next dash. With a nickname set, the result goes on the leaderboard.
- Stopping for more than a second marks the attempt as abandoned and leaves it out of the success rate.